Q & A Concerning the POST Program
Q. WHO CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE POST PROGRAM?
A. Any school employee including but not limited to: teachers, staff, administration, guidance counselors, school nurses, custodians, bus drivers, etc.
A. Absolutely! One of the heroes in Newtown was a custodian. He risked his own life to ensure that the teachers and children were in lockdown and went door-to-door ensuring the doors were locked.
Q. SCHOOL NURSES?
A. Did you know a school nurse hid behind her desk in the front office & Adam Lanza walked right past her? She remembers seeing his feet from under the desk. If she would have been armed and trained, she could have possibly prevented the murderer from entering the hallway in the first place and killing any children.
Q. BUS DRIVERS?
A. There was an incident recently in Alabama where a gunman forcibly and at gunpoint took a young boy off a school bus that resulted in a multi-day standoff in the man’s bunker. In Israel, buses have been hijacked. A bus full of children that is mobile can lead to a terrible tragedy. Let us deter these events from occurring!
Q. WHAT REALLY MAKES THIS PROGRAM EFFECTIVE?
A. Two things:
- DETERRENCE. We recommend a sign on the school doors that state, “This school participates in the POST Program. Teachers & staff may be armed on this campus.” The sign and the program simply existing (and publicized) could alone prevent a school shooting. How? History shows these gunmen are not looking for a fight, but rather a body count.
- IMMEDIATE ARMED RESPONSE. Instead of waiting for Police to respond (it only took 3 minutes for 26 people to be killed in Newtown), there is a possibility for an immediate interdiction of the active shooter. Also, most commit suicide at the first sign of an armed response. There is a applicable saying, “When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.” That is not criticizing law enforcement, it is just reality – they cannot be everywhere at once.
Q. ARE THERE ANY PRECEDENTS INDICATING THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL?
- The “Armed Pilot” Program where thousands of airline pilots complete a similar screening and training process. That program has existed for over 10 years now.
- On May 15, 1974, three Arab gunmen killed 31 children & wounded 70 in Ma’alot in northern Israel. Did Israel respond with “schools are no place for guns?” No. They implemented a 40 hour training program where many teachers & chaperones are now armed. In a nation where terrorism is more common, how many children have been killed in schools since that program was implemented? ZERO! The time is now to do something effective to mitigate this threat.
Q. HOW COMPREHENSIVE IS THIS PROGRAM COMPARED TO OTHER SIMILAR PROGRAMS?
A. There are a few school districts and one state (SD) that allow teachers to be armed, but we have not found an existing program that is as thorough as the POST Program.
Q. WHAT AUTHORIZES THE SCHOOL BOARD TO IMPLEMENT THE POST PROGRAM?
A. In Kentucky, KRS 527.070 (3) (f) states, “…Any other persons, including, but not limited to, exhibitors of historical displays, who have been authorized to carry a firearm by the board of education or board of trustees of the public or private institution.” The KY LRC confirmed that this would authorize a school board to implement our program. The emphasis in the wording is on “…including, but not limited to.”
Q. IS THIS PROGRAM A TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT PROGRAM AS DESIGNED?
A. Absolutely not, it is only a starting point that can be altered to be more or less restrictive. We encourage school districts to take ownership of the program and work with local law enforcement to implement.
Q. DOES THE PROGRAM HAVE TO BE CALLED THE “POST” (PROTECTING OUR STUDENTS & TEACHERS) PROGRAM?
A. No, pick your own program name. In some states, law enforcement has a “POST” Program that has nothing to do with arming teachers so you might desire a different name. Bottom Line: Implement something to protect the children!
Q. WHAT WOULD BE THE CONTENT OF THE TRAINING PROGRAM?
A. See the COURSE CONTENTS page of this website. The course would stress mindset, situational awareness, & appropriate use of deadly force throughout the training. Hand-to-hand defense, handgun retention, & how to effectively conceal a handgun are just a few examples of other course material covered.
Q. IS ANY PRACTICAL SCENARIO TRAINING INCLUDED IN THE TRAINING?
A. Yes. Each participant would have a half-day of training in the video “FATS” Trainer as well as a half-day of scenario airsoft training in an actual school.
Q. WHAT IS THE REASONING BEHIND THE HALF-DAY OF TRAINING IDENTIFIED ON THE “COURSE CONTENTS” PAGE OF THIS WEBSITE?
A. The purpose of the half-day of training prior to the main 43-hour training is ensuring that the participants are prepared both mentally and in regards to equipment prior to the start of training. The contents of the 43-hour training are:
- POST PROGRAM BRIEFING WITH Q&A
- SSI (SENSITIVE SECURITY INFORMATION) BRIEFING
- HANDGUN NOMENCLATURE & FUNCTION
- AMMUNITION FAMILIARIZATION
- METHODS OF HANDGUN CONCEALMENT
- FIREARM SAFETY
- SAFE STORAGE WHEN NOT AT SCHOOL
Q. WHY A SSI (SENSITIVE SECURITY INFORMATION) BRIEFING?
A. The intent is that the participants in the program wear a concealed handgun & that the only people who know they are armed are: school administration, staff, SROs, and other participants in the program.
Q. IS THERE A HANDGUN QUALIFICATION COURSE OF FIRE REQUIRED FOR THIS PROGRAM?
A. Yes, we designed a 50-round qualification that includes shooting from 1.5, 3, 7 & 15 yards. However, each school district can use their local police or sheriff qualification or use the FBI’s new qualification course of fire. We envision semi-annual (quarterly if desired) qualifications as well as a 1- or 2-day refresher course in the late summer prior to the start of the school year.
Q. WHAT ABOUT THE SRO (SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER) PROGRAM?
A. School SROs are one of the school’s most valuable resources. However, most school districts cannot afford to have an SRO in every school. Even if your school has an SRO, they may not always be present due to sickness, training, covering multiple schools, going to lunch, etc. What if the active shooter shoots the SRO first? They would not only eliminate their known threat, but would now possess an additional firearm. It is important to note that the POST Program is designed to establish a layered defense based on teamwork. The POST Program is not designed to replace the SRO program but to supplement it. We envision the SROs participating in the training (and maybe even in interview process) with the program participants from the school they work at in order to build trust, teamwork and familiarity.
Q. HOW ABOUT A TEST PROGRAM?
A. That is all we are suggesting as a start. Train 12 – 24 participants, post a sign on the door that you have the program & re-evaluate after one year.
Q. HOW DO YOU KNOW ENOUGH PEOPLE WILL PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL?
A. A five to ten percent participation rate would lead to a successful program. We think you will find that many participants who are either former military, permit holders, firearm instructors, competitive shooters or who completed the “Troops to Teachers” Program. However, a participant does not have to possess such experience though – a simple desire to protect their students is enough. The training starts with safety and fundamentals, then builds up to precision shooting, shooting on the move, multiple target engagement, and shooting from cover.
Q. WHAT ABOUT LIABILITY CONCERNS?
A. First, what liability exceeds that liability of doing nothing? If there is a shooting like the one in Newtown where 20 children & 6 adults are killed in 3 minutes – what is your liability then? Let’s focus on the objective here – protecting the children. The safety of the children comes first! There is liability insurance that can be purchased to protect the individual teacher that is affordable. There has also been a suggestion of establishing a corporate entity that enters into a non-paid contract with POST Program participants & the corporation has liability insurance coverage.
Q. WE HAVE A “NO GUN” SIGN & CRIMINAL PENALTIES FOR THOSE WHO VIOLATE THE LAW.
A. Um – how is that working out for you? Will it prevent a shooting from occurring tomorrow? Do you honestly feel safer because of words on the door? These signs actually tells the killer that no one is present that can defend the school and therefore makes the school less safe! Do you realize that active shooter incidents (where more than 3 people are killed in a public place) in the last few decades have all occurred in gun free zones (with the exception of the Rep. Giffords shooting in AZ)? In the case of the Aurora, CO movie theater shooting, the gunman had 7 theaters within 45 minutes of his home. He chose neither the two closest nor the largest – he chose the only one with a no gun sign!
Q. WHAT ABOUT PRIVATE SCHOOL PARTICIPATION IN THE POST PROGRAM?
A. No child should go without protection. The private schools can pay the public schools for each of their teachers that participate or they can implement their own program.
We would like to appeal to anyone visiting this website to: Stand up, be a leader and bring this program to your local school board. Do the right thing. There is nothing more precious than our children! Let’s protect them now and not wait for the next shooting.